Will Dockery: works for comment & critique

[Will Dockery]

showing a lack of inspiration in the lyrics
("I fell asleep,
don't know what I had ate,
I dreamed, the hour was late.
It was 1968,

when comix were great,

I was ten but I left (sic) like eight,
back in La Grange when I didn't know my fate."),
a lack of melody

That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we recorded
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips (drums)
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

While the music isn't available to the public (unless any of you can make it
to Rhino's tonight, where we'll be airing them out onstage) yet, the words
are quite inspired, (in my opinion, C&C is welcome, as always)... here's the
rewritten version of "Shadowville Speedway Blues", which will most likely be
the title of the album:

Shadowville Speedway Blues

In a taxi watching a sporting house
Beside a Linwood vacant lot
Silverdollar moon portspotting
Constellation like a sailor's knot.

The sky was black, ink and glitter in the night
Train whine saxophone out beyond the light
I'm in love with a ghost blue turns to grey
Put a pyramid on my head to take my pain away.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street

Brown Reculse magic drifting around the shed
Someone has it in for me I must not lose my head
Moving with the speedo life several with me left behind
Burned too many bridges defragmented my time.

Somewhere in time I've seen all this before
In a magazine or a dream of a distant war
Manifested destiny a manifesto and a part
All the actors still agree that ever had a heart.

Hazel knew the karma, she kept it in a bottle
Black tooth mojo marked index cards
Bundles over the side of Dillingham Bridge
Splashing as ripples reflect from the stars.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street
Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Don't look back, don't admit defeat.

-Will Dockery (words)/Henry Conley (music)

(for which he can't be blamed since he never actually

seems to play a musical instrument at all)

While /you/ are "blessed" with your own built-in whistle-lisp, Rob! Not to
mention your "mouth stuffed with slimeballs" gurgle:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram

I suppose we can call your "instrument" your rotted set of teeth (see
photo):

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and ridiculously

unintelligible "zrrrrrrrrroooooowww...

If you weren't so lazy, you'd have presented the link to the performance, to
back up your statement... which I'll add now:

"Autograph Of Zorro" (Benders-Conley-Dockery)

http://tinyurl.com/2jfbq8

http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm

But if you had provided the link you'd once again be proven a liar,
apparently?

dis nett" vocals are always

Apparently an "Ozone Stigmata" reference?

We'll be recutting that in a couple of weeks, including Gene Woolfolk's
piano & flute arrangement... meanwhile, here's a classic version of that
one:

YouTube - Ozone Stigmata by Will Dockery
Will Dockery -vocal Henry Conley -guitar Brian Fowler ...
Watch video - 1 min 45 sec -

Though somewhat inferior to his earlier work, these tunes showing a
lack of inspiration in the lyrics ("Seeds on the breeze/fill all my
needs/as we lay in the weeds...") and melody (though his endearingly
out-of-tune, simperingly wistful and unintelligible guitar and vocals
preserve the continuity) the next three songs by folk singer Colin
<http://www.firesides.net/seeds.wav>
<http://www.firesides.net/cards.wav>
<http://www.firesides.net/writer.wav>

To kick this thread off, here's a well-written review of my work from last
year:

http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/goodburger/110/11.html

09/11/06: Will Dockery performance review 8-29-06

Here's a good description of the Shadowville scene, from the new issue of
Columbus Community News ( http://www.columbuscommunitynews.com ) by Larry
Caddell:

It was a hot and balmy Saturday night. The intermittent rain only pushed the
humidity level off the charts. I had heard good things about Backyard Blues.
Something was happening at a grassroots level. After all, I received my
invite courtesy of Will Dockery, Columbus' poet laureate and Ralph Frank,
our own drummer/sign painter/folk artist extraordinaire.

Thomas Gottshall purchased the old "coin op" laundry and accompanying
garage-style building on Sixth Street and First Avenue. He has been
renovating and restoring the old building in hopes of turning it into a
music and arts complex. Floor plans have been created featuring performance
space, meeting rooms and a recording studio. The building is made of brick
and features a wooden- arched roof.

The large main room has a small stage on one end and has surprisingly good
acoustics, thanks to the arched ceiling. The crowd was sparse but very
enthusiastic and consisted mostly of musicians, artists and residents of the
historic district. Most occupied the church pews inside, brought their own
lawn chairs (and favorite beverages) or stood in the open air. The music,
much like the weather, was steaming hot.

After several acoustic performers, the Shadowville All- stars took the
stage. This band of rock n' roll renegades are fronted by Will Dockery who
has long needed a launch pad for his eclectic, imagery-laden, neo-beatific
poems. Chain-smoking, spontaneously gesturing towards make-believe objects
and addressing imaginary characters, Dockery sang with a gravel-throated
limp to a rolling, bluesy romp in the swamp. Sounding like a cross between
Tom Waits, Lou Reed and the soundtrack to Pulp Fiction, Dockery and crew
chugged through their myriad of originals about pool halls, bridges,
tragedies, lost love and relationships.

The music of the All-stars was gritty and down-to-earth: a solid backbeat
encircled by the meandering bass lines of Sam Singer and two blues-infused
electric guitars (one tremolo-heavy surf- induced). The band was joined on
stage by Henry Parker for a long, bombastic version of Sweet Jane by the
Velvet Underground.

I was glad to hear this crew of upstarts carving out musical sketches of
Smith-station, the Dillingham Street Bridge and other Columbus-inspired
landmarks. I hope to see a lot more of the Shadowville All-stars. They
kicked out the jams. Check out their space at
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars.

Next up were the vocal harmonies of Kat and Renee, both of whom have
wonderful voices. Their blues and country-inspired tunes paved the way for
Columbus' best kept secret - The Muff-tones.

The Muff-tones are made up of three very talented brothers, Jim, Jack and
John. Their aural soundscapes drift across the plain of bluegrass, folk and
sweeping instrumental originals. The Muff-tones play both acoustic and
electric instruments naturally or through various effects, sounding at once
intensely original and vaguely familiar.

The band started their set in a traditional formation - guitar, banjo and
electric bass. The sound was also traditional, very much like standard
bluegrass. Jim then switched his banjo for a dobro and then replaced that
with a mandolin. The trio swooped and sweltered through some speedy
newgrass, ragtime and instrumental folk ballads. Titles included "Road to
Recovery," "Running from Nothing," "Bleach" and "Square Dance." "Searching"
was described by Jim as something "Barry White would play if he grew up in
Kentucky." Each piece told a story.

Slowly the effects were added. Jack played his acoustic guitar through a
synth pedal, making the instrument sound like keyboard washes. Jim then
pulled out an old Ibanez electric head-banger guitar and played it through
an assortment of effects. This all added to an interstellar sound that
brought the listener from the coalmines of Kentucky to a psychedelic galaxy
far, far away.

The Muff-tones ended their set with a very dexterous groove full of rich,
acoustic textures and synchronistic rhythms showcasing these front porch
symphonies. The band seems to be tightening up its sound and line-up. This
band is worth catching around town.

The final act at Backyard Blues was Eddie Jones. Jones sat on stage like a
professional blues player and belted out "I Got a Woman" by Ray Charles and
jammed with a young bass player and Jim from the Muff-tones on some blues in
E.

He was then joined on stage by Eileen d'Esterno, a local sculptor and
painter who began singing the blues in a sultry and sexy voice. Whether it
was her verses or the swaying of her hips in front of the still seated
Jones, the performance was cut short by Jones' significant other who ruches
on stage only to yank the cable from the guitar, silencing the room and
leaving d'Esterno to ask: "What happened? Did the cops come?"

The cops should have come. I haven't had more fun of recent, and best of
all, the event was free. All performers gave of their time and talent, and
some really good folks supported the event with sound, lights and spirit.
Gotshall said he would host more of these events, so keep your ears open for
good things to come from Backyard Blues.

Larry CR Caddell

[Rob]

Post by Will Dockery

showing a lack of inspiration in the lyrics
("I fell asleep,
don't know what I had ate,
I dreamed, the hour was late.
It was 1968,

when comix were great,

I was ten but I left (sic) like eight,
back in La Grange when I didn't know my fate."),
a lack of melody

That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we recorded
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips (drums)
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

They aren't world class. However, they are pretty good. But not good
enough to solve the problem, i.e. compensate for your dire lyrics and
worse performance.

You criticise Colin's lyrics and his playing but you're the man who
scribbled the crap above and you're the man who doesn't actually play an
instrument on his so-called performances. Perhaps you should
demonstrate some competence before commenting on others.

But that would involve you being slightly less lard-arse lazy than you
are.

Rob
--
Rob Evans

When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

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[Will Dockery]

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we recorded
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips (drums)
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

They aren't world class. However, they are pretty good.

At least you show more honesty than some others here with that statement.

Shadowville Speedway Blues

In a taxi watching a sporting house
Beside a Linwood vacant lot
Silverdollar moon portspotting
Constellation like a sailor's knot.

The sky was black, ink and glitter in the night
Train whine saxophone out beyond the light
I'm in love with a ghost blue turns to grey
Put a pyramid on my head to take my pain away.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street

Brown Reculse magic drifting around the shed
Someone has it in for me I must not lose my head
Moving with the speedo life several with me left behind
Burned too many bridges defragmented my time.

Somewhere in time I've seen all this before
In a magazine or a dream of a distant war
Manifested destiny a manifesto and a part
All the actors still agree that ever had a heart.

Hazel knew the karma, she kept it in a bottle
Black tooth mojo marked index cards
Bundles over the side of Dillingham Bridge
Splashing as ripples reflect from the stars.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street
Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Don't look back, don't admit defeat.

-Will Dockery (words)/Henry Conley (music)

To kick this thread off, here's a well-written review of my work from last
year:

http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/goodburger/110/11.html

09/11/06: Will Dockery performance review 8-29-06

Here's a good description of the Shadowville scene, from the new issue of
Columbus Community News ( http://www.columbuscommunitynews.com ) by Larry
Caddell:

It was a hot and balmy Saturday night. The intermittent rain only pushed the
humidity level off the charts. I had heard good things about Backyard Blues.
Something was happening at a grassroots level. After all, I received my
invite courtesy of Will Dockery, Columbus' poet laureate and Ralph Frank,
our own drummer/sign painter/folk artist extraordinaire.

Thomas Gottshall purchased the old "coin op" laundry and accompanying
garage-style building on Sixth Street and First Avenue. He has been
renovating and restoring the old building in hopes of turning it into a
music and arts complex. Floor plans have been created featuring performance
space, meeting rooms and a recording studio. The building is made of brick
and features a wooden- arched roof.

The large main room has a small stage on one end and has surprisingly good
acoustics, thanks to the arched ceiling. The crowd was sparse but very
enthusiastic and consisted mostly of musicians, artists and residents of the
historic district. Most occupied the church pews inside, brought their own
lawn chairs (and favorite beverages) or stood in the open air. The music,
much like the weather, was steaming hot.

After several acoustic performers, the Shadowville All- stars took the
stage. This band of rock n' roll renegades are fronted by Will Dockery who
has long needed a launch pad for his eclectic, imagery-laden, neo-beatific
poems. Chain-smoking, spontaneously gesturing towards make-believe objects
and addressing imaginary characters, Dockery sang with a gravel-throated
limp to a rolling, bluesy romp in the swamp. Sounding like a cross between
Tom Waits, Lou Reed and the soundtrack to Pulp Fiction, Dockery and crew
chugged through their myriad of originals about pool halls, bridges,
tragedies, lost love and relationships.

The music of the All-stars was gritty and down-to-earth: a solid backbeat
encircled by the meandering bass lines of Sam Singer and two blues-infused
electric guitars (one tremolo-heavy surf- induced). The band was joined on
stage by Henry Parker for a long, bombastic version of Sweet Jane by the
Velvet Underground.

I was glad to hear this crew of upstarts carving out musical sketches of
Smith-station, the Dillingham Street Bridge and other Columbus-inspired
landmarks. I hope to see a lot more of the Shadowville All-stars. They
kicked out the jams. Check out their space at
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars.

Next up were the vocal harmonies of Kat and Renee, both of whom have
wonderful voices. Their blues and country-inspired tunes paved the way for
Columbus' best kept secret - The Muff-tones.

The Muff-tones are made up of three very talented brothers, Jim, Jack and
John. Their aural soundscapes drift across the plain of bluegrass, folk and
sweeping instrumental originals. The Muff-tones play both acoustic and
electric instruments naturally or through various effects, sounding at once
intensely original and vaguely familiar.

The band started their set in a traditional formation - guitar, banjo and
electric bass. The sound was also traditional, very much like standard
bluegrass. Jim then switched his banjo for a dobro and then replaced that
with a mandolin. The trio swooped and sweltered through some speedy
newgrass, ragtime and instrumental folk ballads. Titles included "Road to
Recovery," "Running from Nothing," "Bleach" and "Square Dance." "Searching"
was described by Jim as something "Barry White would play if he grew up in
Kentucky." Each piece told a story.

Slowly the effects were added. Jack played his acoustic guitar through a
synth pedal, making the instrument sound like keyboard washes. Jim then
pulled out an old Ibanez electric head-banger guitar and played it through
an assortment of effects. This all added to an interstellar sound that
brought the listener from the coalmines of Kentucky to a psychedelic galaxy
far, far away.

The Muff-tones ended their set with a very dexterous groove full of rich,
acoustic textures and synchronistic rhythms showcasing these front porch
symphonies. The band seems to be tightening up its sound and line-up. This
band is worth catching around town.

The final act at Backyard Blues was Eddie Jones. Jones sat on stage like a
professional blues player and belted out "I Got a Woman" by Ray Charles and
jammed with a young bass player and Jim from the Muff-tones on some blues in
E.

He was then joined on stage by Eileen d'Esterno, a local sculptor and
painter who began singing the blues in a sultry and sexy voice. Whether it
was her verses or the swaying of her hips in front of the still seated
Jones, the performance was cut short by Jones' significant other who ruches
on stage only to yank the cable from the guitar, silencing the room and
leaving d'Esterno to ask: "What happened? Did the cops come?"

The cops should have come. I haven't had more fun of recent, and best of
all, the event was free. All performers gave of their time and talent, and
some really good folks supported the event with sound, lights and spirit.
Gotshall said he would host more of these events, so keep your ears open for
good things to come from Backyard Blues.

Larry CR Caddell

[Rob]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we

recorded

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips

(drums)

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

They aren't world class. However, they are pretty good.

At least you show more honesty than some others here with that statement.

Honesty is wasted on you since you respond with your usual dishonesty by
side-stepping the remaining observations:

You criticised Colin's lyrics and his playing but you're the man who
scribbled this crap:

"I fell asleep,
don't know what I had ate,
I dreamed, the hour was late.
It was 1968,
when comix were great,
I was ten but I left like eight,
back in La Grange when I didn't know my fate."

and you're the man who doesn't actually play an instrument on his
so-called performances. Perhaps you should demonstrate some competence
before commenting on others.

But that would involve you being slightly less lard-arse lazy than you
are.

Rob
--
Rob Evans

When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

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[Meat Plow]

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we

recorded

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips

(drums)

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

They aren't world class. However, they are pretty good.

At least you show more honesty than some others here with that statement.

Honesty is wasted on you since you respond with your usual dishonesty by
You criticised Colin's lyrics and his playing but you're the man who
"I fell asleep,
don't know what I had ate,
I dreamed, the hour was late.
It was 1968,
when comix were great,
I was ten but I left like eight,
back in La Grange when I didn't know my fate."
and you're the man who doesn't actually play an instrument on his
so-called performances. Perhaps you should demonstrate some competence
before commenting on others.

Don't forget to laugh at this shameful display of incompetent drunkenness.

http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

I don't know about you but had I gotten shit-faced drunk and produced such
a monstrosity, it would have been erased as soon as I saw it. Is it just
me or should one be ashamed of video like this? Dockery seems to be proud
of it and I just don't understand why.

Post by Rob
But that would involve you being slightly less lard-arse lazy than you
are.
Rob
--
Rob Evans
When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

[Beau Blue]

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we

recorded

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips

(drums)

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

They aren't world class. However, they are pretty good.

At least you show more honesty than some others here with that statement.

Honesty is wasted on you since you respond with your usual dishonesty by
You criticised Colin's lyrics and his playing but you're the man who
"I fell asleep,
don't know what I had ate,
I dreamed, the hour was late.
It was 1968,
when comix were great,
I was ten but I left like eight,
back in La Grange when I didn't know my fate."
and you're the man who doesn't actually play an instrument on his
so-called performances. Perhaps you should demonstrate some competence
before commenting on others.

Don't forget to laugh at this shameful display of incompetent drunkenness.
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
I don't know about you but had I gotten shit-faced drunk and produced such
a monstrosity, it would have been erased as soon as I saw it. Is it just
me or should one be ashamed of video like this? Dockery seems to be proud
of it and I just don't understand why.

That's cause you haven't realized how incredibly STUPID Twitch
actually is. It's true. Bill's stupidity stuns the normal human
being's ability to comprehend its magnitude.

He's proud of his vids 'cause, well .. he hasn't got anything else to
be proud of. A middle-aged pizza delivery boy and parlor mop-jock, his
idea of entertainment is drunken mumbling before strangers in dimly
lit bars, backed by amateur musicians with equally menial day jobs.

No matter how bad the performance records, it's all they got. Booze,
charity tokes and daily mumbles awash in misery and boredom. But in
Bumpkinbrush, that makes one an all-tard, er, star, you know?

-blue

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Rob
But that would involve you being slightly less lard-arse lazy than you
are.
Rob
--
Rob Evans
When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

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[Will Dockery]

Post by Beau Blue

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we

recorded

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips

(drums)

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

They aren't world class. However, they are pretty good.

http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

He's proud of his vids 'cause,

Cause I'm confident they contain some good work, and thanks for
helping to make them available for others to check out and decide for
themselves on.

Post by Beau Blue
well .. he hasn't got anything else to
be proud of.

Wrong, as usual, Blue... I'm proud of the actual songs that we've
written. If you don't like 'em, feel free to promote something you /
do/ like.

Or just continue to whine, and unwillingly continue to help promote /
my/ art for me... heh.

Post by Beau Blue
A middle-aged pizza delivery boy and parlor mop-jock, his

Yeah, delivery work works for me... plenty of freedom and enough money
to suit me.

Post by Beau Blue
idea of entertainment is drunken mumbling before strangers in dimly

The more strangers we pull in, the better.

Flyers for the Rhino's gig placed at all hotels, tattoo parlors, sex
shops, gas stations, as well as a good sized ad in Playgrounds
http://www.playgroundsmag.com which is available pretty much
everywhere in town continues to pull in strangers, both to perform and
to check out the show... but familar faces are welcome, as well.

Post by Beau Blue
lit bars, backed by amateur musicians with equally menial day jobs.

Since I've heard /your/ cliche riddled blues riffs played at a
plodding pace, while some drunken lady screams along with it, your
jealousy of Conley et al is understandable, Blue.

Come back and whine again soon, though.

--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets,
artists,
musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10, bring your
own
bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Rik]

Post by Beau Blue

Post by Meat Plow
Don't forget to laugh at this shameful display of incompetent drunkenness.
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
I don't know about you but had I gotten shit-faced drunk and produced such
a monstrosity, it would have been erased as soon as I saw it. Is it just
me or should one be ashamed of video like this? Dockery seems to be proud
of it and I just don't understand why.

That's cause you haven't realized how incredibly STUPID Twitch
actually is. It's true. Bill's stupidity stuns the normal human
being's ability to comprehend its magnitude.
He's proud of his vids 'cause, well .. he hasn't got anything else to
be proud of. A middle-aged pizza delivery boy and parlor mop-jock, his
idea of entertainment is drunken mumbling before strangers in dimly
lit bars, backed by amateur musicians with equally menial day jobs.
No matter how bad the performance records, it's all they got. Booze,
charity tokes and daily mumbles awash in misery and boredom. But in
Bumpkinbrush, that makes one an all-tard, er, star, you know?
-blue

I prefer to think of Will's various efforts both here and elsewhere as
an extreme form of celebrititis. He's been promised 15 minutes of fame
and he will do anything - whatever it takes - to grasp it.

Unfortunately for us, the only tools he has been supplied with are
crayons and scrap paper, an internet connection and some (alleged)
friends who are willing to let him stand up on stage and, apparently,
video the outcome (and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

I honestly can't explain in any other terms the man's insistence on
posting screeds of links to his work at every opportunity, disregardless
of the stated purpose of the thread or the ongoing conversations
therein, and even going as far as to change thread titles (to aid in the
essential promotion of Will Dockery) and cross-post the results widely
across usenet.

I mean, why? Does he truly think that being noticed (and, presumably,
praised - even obliquely: no doubt he'll view this post as a vindication
of all his efforts to date) is the only purpose his life serves?

All a person can do is sigh, press the 'k' key and click on in the hope
of finding a less Will-infested thread.

Rik, knee deep.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?

Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets,
artists, musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10,
bring your
own bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr, Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Rik]

Post by Will Dockery
Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?

I wasn't commenting on the work.

Post by Will Dockery
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

Only if you promise to improve your reading skillz.

Rik, knee deep.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?

I wasn't commenting on the work.

Since you wrote "I still haven't seen the video" that was pretty
obvious.

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

"What he said."

--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets,
artists, musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10,
bring your
own bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr, Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Rob]

In message

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?

I wasn't commenting on the work.

Since you wrote "I still haven't seen the video" that was pretty
obvious.

If it was that obvious, stupe, why did you talk about Rik's "opinion of
the work" when you now say it was pretty obvious that he wasn't
commenting on the work? Duckrish black equals white again, eh?

Are you completely retarded?

Or is the language just too difficult?

Or is it that you just lie on auto-pilot nowadays?

Probably all three.

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

"What he said."

What he said was English; what you said was double-duckrish.

Rob
--
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I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

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Will Dockery writes

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?

I wasn't commenting on the work.

Since you wrote "I still haven't seen the video" that was pretty
obvious.

If it was that obvious <slap>

Mushmouth, here's what was written:

--

http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?

Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets,
artists, musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10,
bring your
own bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr, Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Rik]

Post by Will Dockery
--

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

So all you've managed to demonstrate in these last few posts is that
you're shite at snipping and attribution, yes?

Post by Will Dockery
I prefer to think of Will's various efforts both here and elsewhere as
an extreme form of celebrititis. He's been promised 15 minutes of fame
and he will do anything - whatever it takes - to grasp it.
Unfortunately for us, the only tools he has been supplied with are
crayons and scrap paper, an internet connection and some (alleged)
friends who are willing to let him stand up on stage and, apparently,
video the outcome (and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).
I honestly can't explain in any other terms the man's insistence on
posting screeds of links to his work at every opportunity,
disregardless of the stated purpose of the thread or the ongoing
conversations therein, and even going as far as to change thread
titles (to aid in the essential promotion of Will Dockery) and
cross-post the results widely across usenet.
I mean, why? Does he truly think that being noticed (and, presumably,
praised - even obliquely: no doubt he'll view this post as a
vindication of all his efforts to date) is the only purpose his life
serves?
All a person can do is sigh, press the 'k' key and click on in the
hope of finding a less Will-infested thread.

See, Will? My comment really was *all* *about* *you*, and nothing
whatsoever to do with the quality (heh) of your work.

Reading skillz: they're not just for crimbo!

Rik, knee deep.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

So all you've managed to demonstrate <snip>

Is that you're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.

<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>
--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets, artists,
musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10, bring your own
bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Meat Plow]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

So all you've managed to demonstrate <snip>

Is that you're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

You snipped what he was commenting on. By your own above admission
this means his comments weren't about the (works for comment..) topic
making your comment a lie. But we're all use to your lies as they are the
only things that could possibly make your replies favor your delusional
thoughts.

Go ahead and hack my reply into another one of your lies. Wanting to is
not an option, you know you have to do it.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

So all you've managed to demonstrate <snip>

Is that you're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

lies
lies

Speaking of your lies, whatever happened to the music you lied about having
made that was "better" than mine?

Right, just another jealous lie of yours... heh.
--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets, artists,
musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10, bring your own
bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Meat Plow]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

So all you've managed to demonstrate <snip>

Is that you're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

lies
lies

No need to quote any future lies of yours Dockery as I've pretty much
summed up your pathetic existence.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

So all you've managed to demonstrate <snip>

Is that you're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

lies
lies

No need to quote any future lies of yours Dockery as I've pretty much
summed up your pathetic existence.

No, what hurts you is that I "summed up your pathetic existence" with
the last message to you you just snipped:

* * *
Speaking of your lies, whatever happened to the music you lied about
having
made that was "better" than mine?

Right, just another jealous lie of yours... heh.

* * *

Feel free to prove otherwise, but I wager you can't... and I never
wager on anything but a /sure thing/.

--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets,
artists,
musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10, bring your
own
bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Meat Plow]

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

So all you've managed to demonstrate <snip>

Is that you're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

lies
lies

No need to quote any future lies of yours Dockery as I've pretty much
summed up your pathetic existence.

[Dockery lies unread and muted]

See how easy this is Dockery. I won't be a vehicle for you to spread your
blatant lies.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

lies
lies
Dockery lies
lies.

Your lies of two years ago are well documented in the archives, Meat
Plow.

No, what hurts you is that I "summed up your pathetic existence" with
the last message to you that you just snipped:

* * *
Speaking of your lies, whatever happened to the music you lied about
having made that was "better" than mine?

Right, just another jealous lie of yours... heh.

* * *
Feel free to prove otherwise, but I wager you can't... and I never
wager on anything but a /sure thing/.

--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets,
artists, musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10,
bring your
own bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr, Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Meat Plow]

Post by Meat Plow
lies
lies
Dockery lies
lies.

See how easy this is. All your lies have been omitted. I'll only permit
the truth in my posts from now on. The truth being you post nothing but
lies.

heh

[Rik]

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Will Dockery
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

You snipped what he was commenting on. By your own above admission
this means his comments weren't about the (works for comment..) topic
making your comment a lie. But we're all use to your lies as they are the
only things that could possibly make your replies favor your delusional
thoughts.
Go ahead and hack my reply into another one of your lies. Wanting to is
not an option, you know you have to do it.

Maybe he really believes that the only way to win an 'argument' is to
have the last word (or make the last post)?

Rik, knee deep.

[Meat Plow]

Post by Rik

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Will Dockery
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

You snipped what he was commenting on. By your own above admission
this means his comments weren't about the (works for comment..) topic
making your comment a lie. But we're all use to your lies as they are the
only things that could possibly make your replies favor your delusional
thoughts.
Go ahead and hack my reply into another one of your lies. Wanting to is
not an option, you know you have to do it.

Maybe he really believes that the only way to win an 'argument' is to
have the last word (or make the last post)?

He's had the last word countless times and look where it's gotten him.

[Dennis M. Hammes]

Post by Rik

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Will Dockery
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

You snipped what he was commenting on. By your own above admission
this means his comments weren't about the (works for comment..) topic
making your comment a lie. But we're all use to your lies as they are the
only things that could possibly make your replies favor your
delusional thoughts.
Go ahead and hack my reply into another one of your lies. Wanting to is
not an option, you know you have to do it.

Maybe he really believes that the only way to win an 'argument' is to
have the last word (or make the last post)?
Rik, knee deep.

Hey, it worked on his wife...

[Beau Blue]

Post by Rik

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Will Dockery
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

You snipped what he was commenting on. By your own above admission
this means his comments weren't about the (works for comment..) topic
making your comment a lie. But we're all use to your lies as they are the
only things that could possibly make your replies favor your delusional
thoughts.
Go ahead and hack my reply into another one of your lies. Wanting to is
not an option, you know you have to do it.

Maybe he really believes that the only way to win an 'argument' is to
have the last word (or make the last post)?

Who knows what he really believes. Twitch is too much an imbecile to
have any standards for anything, even argument winning. It's apparent
that the shit constantly running from his keyboard is a sad attempt to
diminish the desperation mop-jockeying a pizza-parlor floor shows to
his bathroom mirror. It really is incredibly, monumentally
sad,
you know.

-blue

* *
*

"Bill's 50 point IQ doesn't really let him 'WIN' anything.
He augments his government dole with money he earns
swabbing the deck at Parnello's Pizzaria. Together, the
income streams keep him in booze, under a rented roof,
scrounging for compliments, from other alcoholics, on his
Friday night 'poetry' and garage-band performances. Ah
yes, such 'good times'. hehehehehehehe

"Yep! A genuine 'dumb southern boy'."

"He's so proud!"

Post by Rik
Rik, knee deep.

~ Beau Blue Presents ~ <> http://members.cruzio.com/~jjwebb
Bill Minor * Robert Sward <> Internet Broadsides
Morton Marcus * Renay <> Contemporary American Poetry
~ Blue's Cruzio Cafe ~ <> http://members.cruzio.com/~cafe

[Will Dockery]

Post by Beau Blue
He augments his government dole with money he earns
swabbing the deck at Parnello's Pizzaria. Together, the
income streams keep him in booze, under a rented roof,
scrounging for compliments, from other alcoholics, on his
Friday night 'poetry' and garage-band performances. Ah
yes, such 'good times'.

Works for me.

Thanks for the "citique" of the life of "Will Dockery", or at least
your ongoing fantasies about it... heh.

--
"Dream Tears" by Dockery-Mallard:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars

"Wobble" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

[Rik]

Post by Will Dockery

So all you've managed to demonstrate <snip>

Is that you're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.

I don't comment on your work, Will. Not any more. Your refusal to see
your work as other people might see it, or take into account the many
and various comments and suggestions that you have received over the
years, makes commenting on your work as pointless an activity as reading
it in the first place.

As you have shown in your many comments posted across usenet since the
turn of the century, you simply refuse to believe that anyone could
possibly doubt the worth of 'The Work of Will Dockery'. It is my belief
that you view all such comments as merely the attempts of jealous people
to steal away your promised fifteen minutes of fame.

Sad, sad Will ...

And (just in case you moan about it) my comments can't possibly be
off-topic if I change the subject line accordingly. I mean, that's what
you do all the time, so what's good for the goose ...

Rik, knee deep.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Rik
I don't comment on your work, Will. Not any more.

That implies that you actually did read and comment on my work at some
point, which you'd be hard pressed to prove... if you ever gave a
worthwhile comment here on me, I'd be pleased to see it.

Post by Rik
Your refusal to see
your work as other people might see it, or take into account the many
and various comments and suggestions

I've received a small amount of worthwhile critique here over the
years, from Dale Houstman (tough but useful commentary), Baloney (who
left again, of course) and the hilariously hated George Dance this
year. I might repost those here, but from you and most others there
won't be anythin, since you seem incaple of making a "comment or
suggestion" that doesn't revolve around some lie about me. Which makes
sense since you admit that you haven't even seen/read/heard anything
I've produced.

I've taken into account and even used suggestions and comments many
times... but, no, I don't "take into account" knee-jerk insults and
personal attacks against me.

Which is what the vast amount of "comments and suggestions" amount to
here on Usenet, and which is the direction you're trying to steer this
thread into right now.

Have fun... but don't think you'll stop me from creating (and
promoting) my art here.

--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets,
artists,
musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10, bring your
own
bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Rob]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

So all you've managed to demonstrate <snip>

Is that you're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.

Shut up you fuckwit or learn the language. I know your only skill is
duckrish but you have to understand that it doesn't actually make any
sense. But here's another wasted challenge for you - just repost the
actual words that Rik wrote that gave an OPINION of your crap video.

You won't.

You can't.

Not in English, anyway.

Rob

[Will Dockery]

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.
You're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.

Shut up

Something you should have considered before you recorded your whistle-
lisping spittle spew "poetry" (chopped-up-prose that many would call
'not a poem') "performance", which I /have/ listened to and critiqued
appropriately, of your dreary "poem" and mushy "performance":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram

But its too late for you to "shut up" your whistle-lisping slimeball
stuffed lying face, y'know, huh Mushmouth?

--
Rhino's open mic for music & poetry:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we recorded
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips (drums)
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

[Rob]

In message

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.
You're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.

Shut up

Something you should have considered before you recorded your whistle-
lisping spittle spew "poetry" (chopped-up-prose that many would call
'not a poem') "performance", which I /have/ listened to and critiqued
http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram
But its too late for you to "shut up" your whistle-lisping slimeball
stuffed lying face, y'know, huh Mushmouth?

If you "borrowed" your poetry the way you "borrow" your insults it might
improve slightly from your current unspeakable shit.

And it could be a face-saving alternative to explaining why you can't
just repost the actual words that Rik wrote that gave an OPINION of your
crap video.

But you won't.

Because you can't.

Not in English, anyway.

But thanks for demonstrating that fact.

Fool.

Rob
--
Rob Evans

When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

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[Will Dockery]

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.
You're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.

Shut up

Something you should have considered before you recorded your whistle-
lisping spittle spew "poetry" (chopped-up-prose that many would call
'not a poem') "performance", which I /have/ listened to and critiqued
http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram
But its too late for you to "shut up" your whistle-lisping slimeball
stuffed lying face, y'know, huh Mushmouth?

If you "borrowed" your poetry the way you "borrow" your insults

If you could make one post that didn't show you to be a whistle-
lisping liar... oh well, you'd still be a mushmouthed old crone.

--
Rhino's open mic for music & poetry:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we recorded
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips (drums)
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

[Rob]

In message

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.
You're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.

Shut up

Something you should have considered before you recorded your whistle-
lisping spittle spew "poetry" (chopped-up-prose that many would call
'not a poem') "performance", which I /have/ listened to and critiqued
http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram
But its too late for you to "shut up" your whistle-lisping slimeball
stuffed lying face, y'know, huh Mushmouth?

If you "borrowed" your poetry the way you "borrow" your insults

If you could make one post that didn't show you to be a whistle-
lisping liar... oh well, you'd still be a mushmouthed old crone.

Or perhaps you're the same old side-stepping slip-sliding waste-of-space
shit-mouthed liar.

Yep, that nails it.

Rob
--
Rob Evans

When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

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[Will Dockery]

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Post by Will Dockery
Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

You're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even seen.

Shut up

Something you should have considered before you recorded your whistle-
lisping spittle spew "poetry" (chopped-up-prose that many would call
'not a poem') "performance", which I /have/ listened to and critiqued
http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram
But its too late for you to "shut up" your whistle-lisping slimeball
stuffed lying face, y'know, huh Mushmouth?
If you could make one post that didn't show you to be a whistle-
lisping liar... oh well, you'd still be a mushmouthed old crone.

shit-mouthed liar

So /that's/ what you have stuffed in your mouth in your famous
recording?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram

Post by Rob
Yep, that nails it.

Yes (or as you would pronounce it, "Yesss*tweet*th").

Thanks for clearing that up Mush... er, Shitmouth.

--
"You can't find "sense" in the poem, fine...
that doesn't mean there's none there, just
that you can't, or won't, see it."
- Will Dockery, 15 May 2007

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Will Dockery]

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

Maybe he really believes that the only way to win an 'argument' is to
have the last word (or make the last post)?

I "win" an argument by making the correct statements... and I never bet on
anything but a "sure thing".

Actually, I just looked, and it turns out that not only did you make
comments and suggestion on one of my poems, but it turns out that you I
listened and made changes you suggested:

Ritual Memory.

If these words of love
fell into bad timing
put it away
like a flower in a book.

This place has become a valley
all is lost here in the rain.
but I am older and wiser
and understand the tricks of life.

How sadness and soft light
are a natural form of life.
As is cold rain
in the later part of November.

I feel so old yet not wise
foolhardy as the day I was born.
Put me away
I make a better memory.

I will not rip it out of here
it is an honest poem.
So I will not edit it
why would I even want to do that?

-Will Dockery

Post by Rik
Derivative repetitions that roll across the screen

Post by Will Dockery
I will not rip it out of here
it is an honest poem.
So I will not edit it
why would I even want to do that?

A *good* poem is not an honest poem, it is an *entertaining* poem. This

poem

Post by Rik
ain't singing and dancing. Fix it, or put it out of it's misery. Please.
Rik, knee deep.

I think you're right--- those last lines kind of blow it with "commentary".
I'll try it with those lines chopped, and see how it works:

Ritual Memory.

If these words of love
fell into bad timing
put it away
like a flower in a book.

This place has become a valley
all is lost here in the rain.
But I am older and wiser
and understand the tricks of life.

How sadness and soft light
are a natural form of life.
As is cold rain
in the later part of November.

I feel so old yet not wise
foolhardy as the day I was born.
Put me away
I make a better memory.

-Will Dockery

"Still more song than poem, but now you have an interesting close. Thank you
for taking the time to edit."

Rik, knee deep.

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery

Exhaust
from the car ahead
looks like ghost horses.

Dont lose this image!

At this point it may be the only one I keep.

"Will - it's really good to see you starting to work with your material. One
of the things that used to outrage me about your poems was that you clearly
had something to say, but just didn't seem interested in how the audience
heard your message." -Rik Roots

This line did turn out to be the only one kept, used in the recently
recorded (due for release in early 2008) "Twilight Girl":

Twilight Girl

Six or six thousand,
we will meet again.
At blazing dusk,
or quiet dawn.
On that shore... again.

This is the wait,
the weight of the world.
Comes down sweet and heavy...
Twilight Girl.

On that quiet morning,
clear, crispy light.
Seeing a movie from a distance,
mourning in front of her flight.

This is the wait,
the weight of the world.
Comes down sweet and heavy,
Twilight Girl.

She offered me her cup,
asked me to fill it up,
I said "Later, babe.
Right now we have to talk
untangle the chakra
that crosses over."

Ghost horses,
from the car ahead,
looks like engine exhaust.
Blink my eyes through bitter tears,
a smile for what we lost.

This is the wait,
the weight of the world.
Comes down sweet and heavy...
Twilight Girl.

Words: Will Dockery
Music: Henry Conley

So, *last word*, you have commented and suggested, and I have listened to
your comments and suggestions.

I'm running late here and have to get outside, but I may return with more
later, when I return.

Thanks again for the comments and suggestions, and I look forward to more,
if you have any real ones like those above.
--
Rhino's open mic for music & poetry:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Barbara's Cat]

Post by Will Dockery
I "win"

Straight from Duck's personal copy of
Chuckles' "Web BLAAARGH Generator".

[Meat Plow]

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Will Dockery
I "win"

Straight from Duck's personal copy of
Chuckles' "Web BLAAARGH Generator".

He's won nothing. He's still the mumbling, stumbling drunken fool he has
always been and always will be.

[Barbara's Cat]

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Will Dockery
I "win"

Straight from Duck's personal copy of
Chuckles' "Web BLAAARGH Generator".

He's won nothing.

No sane person would disagree with you on that.

Post by Meat Plow
He's still the mumbling, stumbling drunken fool
he has always been and always will be.

Ah! I see that you too have seen Duckery's postings
where he reveals his one and only true goal in life.

[Dennis M. Hammes]

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Will Dockery
I "win"

Straight from Duck's personal copy of
Chuckles' "Web BLAAARGH Generator".

He's won nothing.

No sane person would disagree with you on that.

Post by Meat Plow
He's still the mumbling, stumbling drunken fool
he has always been and always will be.

Ah! I see that you too have seen Duckery's postings
where he reveals his one and only true goal in life.

Duckery has a goal?
Jesus fuck, and here I thot he was just too lazy to get back up.
So his goal is really to hold down something for once in his life,
then.
How admirable.

[Barbara's Cat]

Post by Dennis M. Hammes

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Will Dockery
I "win"

Straight from Duck's personal copy of
Chuckles' "Web BLAAARGH Generator".

He's won nothing.

No sane person would disagree with you on that.

Post by Meat Plow
He's still the mumbling, stumbling drunken fool
he has always been and always will be.

Ah! I see that you too have seen Duckery's postings
where he reveals his one and only true goal in life.

Duckery has a goal?
Jesus fuck, and here I thot he was just too lazy to get back up.
So his goal is really to hold down something for once in his life,
then.
How admirable.

Rumor has it: After Duckery dies, God is going to
reincarnate him as a rope-weave porch mat just to
see his matter finally perform a useful function.

[Dennis M. Hammes]

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Dennis M. Hammes

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Will Dockery
I "win"

Straight from Duck's personal copy of
Chuckles' "Web BLAAARGH Generator".

He's won nothing.

No sane person would disagree with you on that.

Post by Meat Plow
He's still the mumbling, stumbling drunken fool
he has always been and always will be.

Ah! I see that you too have seen Duckery's postings
where he reveals his one and only true goal in life.

Duckery has a goal?
Jesus fuck, and here I thot he was just too lazy to get back up.
So his goal is really to hold down something for once in his life,
then.
How admirable.

Rumor has it: After Duckery dies, God is going to
reincarnate him as a rope-weave porch mat just to
see his matter finally perform a useful function.

Wow. Something he's actually trained for, too.
God is Good...

[Dennis M. Hammes]

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

Maybe he really believes that the only way to win an 'argument' is to
have the last word (or make the last post)?

I "whine" an argument

Thanks for setting us straight on that.

(GeeZ, this Duckrish shit is easy...)

[Rob]

In message

Post by Will Dockery

Will Dockery writes

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?

I wasn't commenting on the work.

Since you wrote "I still haven't seen the video" that was pretty
obvious.

If it was that obvious <slap>

--

http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

Yes. Thank you for repeating the process that proves you to be
completely retarded.

Read s-l-o-w-l-y.
You talked about Rik's "opinion of the work" and then said it was pretty
obvious that he wasn't commenting on the work? The two statements don't
match. But much the same can be said of any two consecutive statements
of yours when you're wriggling on anyone's hook.

Which is most days.

Rob

[Will Dockery]

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
I don't know about you but had I gotten shit-faced drunk and produced

You seem incapable of producing anything, drunk or sober... geel free
to prove me weong, of course.

Post by Will Dockery
a monstrosity, it would have been erased as soon as I saw it.

So whatever happened to the song you claimed to have recorded that was
so much "better" than my work? Erased?

Oh, right, you admitted you were lying and then admitted that you'd
never written a song in your life.

Post by Will Dockery
Is it just me

Maybe... does it really matter? Opinions are just that, and nothing
more.

Post by Will Dockery
or should one be ashamed of video like this?

Not here, maybe you're ashamed of your attempts, since you seem aftaid
to post any examples of your "better" music.

Post by Will Dockery
Dockery seems to be proud

Dammed right.

Post by Will Dockery
of it and I just don't understand why.

Since you don't write poetry and songs, and don't even perform at all
(hope your foot is healing and you'll be back on the drums soon,
though) it makes sense when you jealously whine about how you "just
don't understand".

--
"Wobble" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Will Dockery and the Shadowville All-Stars:
http://shadowvilleallstars.muddywolf.net/

[Will Dockery]

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we

recorded

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips

(drums)

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

They aren't world class. However, they are pretty good.

At least you show more honesty than some others here with that statement.

Honesty is wasted on you since you respond with your usual dishonesty by

Wrong again, Mushmouth, I "sidestepped" nothing, as a repost of my

Post by Rob
showing a lack of inspiration in the lyrics
("I fell asleep,
don't know what I had ate,
I dreamed, the hour was late.
It was 1968,

Post by Will Dockery
when comix were great,

I was ten but I left (sic) like eight,
back in La Grange when I didn't know my fate."),
a lack of melody

That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we
recorded
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips
(drums)
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

While the music isn't available to the public (unless any of you can
make it
to Rhino's tonight, where we'll be airing them out onstage) yet, the
words
are quite inspired, (in my opinion, C&C is welcome, as always)...
here's the
rewritten version of "Shadowville Speedway Blues", which will most
likely be
the title of the album:

Shadowville Speedway Blues

In a taxi watching a sporting house
Beside a Linwood vacant lot
Silverdollar moon portspotting
Constellation like a sailor's knot.

The sky was black, ink and glitter in the night
Train whine saxophone out beyond the light
I'm in love with a ghost blue turns to grey
Put a pyramid on my head to take my pain away.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street

Brown Reculse magic drifting around the shed
Someone has it in for me I must not lose my head
Moving with the speedo life several with me left behind
Burned too many bridges defragmented my time.

Somewhere in time I've seen all this before
In a magazine or a dream of a distant war
Manifested destiny a manifesto and a part
All the actors still agree that ever had a heart.

Hazel knew the karma, she kept it in a bottle
Black tooth mojo marked index cards
Bundles over the side of Dillingham Bridge
Splashing as ripples reflect from the stars.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street
Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Don't look back, don't admit defeat.

-Will Dockery (words)/Henry Conley (music)

(for which he can't be blamed since he never actually

Post by Rob
seems to play a musical instrument at all)

While /you/ are "blessed" with your own built-in whistle-lisp, Rob!
Not to
mention your "mouth stuffed with slimeballs" gurgle:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram

I suppose we can call your "instrument" your rotted set of teeth (see
photo):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/images/rob_evans270.jpg

and ridiculously

Post by Rob
unintelligible "zrrrrrrrrroooooowww...

If you weren't so lazy, you'd have presented the link to the
performance, to
back up your statement... which I'll add now:

"Autograph Of Zorro" (Benders-Conley-Dockery)

http://tinyurl.com/2jfbq8

http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm

But if you had provided the link you'd once again be proven a liar,
apparently?

Post by Rob
dis nett" vocals are always

Apparently an "Ozone Stigmata" reference?

We'll be recutting that in a couple of weeks, including Gene
Woolfolk's
piano & flute arrangement... meanwhile, here's a classic version of
that
one:

YouTube - Ozone Stigmata by Will Dockery
Will Dockery -vocal Henry Conley -guitar Brian Fowler ...
Watch video - 1 min 45 sec -
http://youtu.be/bxfl_7KvFcc

Post by Rob

Post by Will Dockery
Though somewhat inferior to his earlier work, these tunes showing a
lack of inspiration in the lyrics ("Seeds on the breeze/fill all my
needs/as we lay in the weeds...") and melody (though his endearingly
out-of-tune, simperingly wistful and unintelligible guitar and vocals
preserve the continuity) the next three songs by folk singer Colin
<http://www.firesides.net/seeds.wav>
<http://www.firesides.net/cards.wav>
<http://www.firesides.net/writer.wav>

To kick this thread off, here's a well-written review of my work from
last
year:

http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/goodburger/110/11.html

09/11/06: Will Dockery performance review 8-29-06

Here's a good description of the Shadowville scene, from the new issue
of
Columbus Community News ( http://www.columbuscommunitynews.com ) by
Larry Caddell:

It was a hot and balmy Saturday night. The intermittent rain only
pushed the
humidity level off the charts. I had heard good things about Backyard
Blues.
Something was happening at a grassroots level. After all, I received
my
invite courtesy of Will Dockery, Columbus' poet laureate and Ralph
Frank,
our own drummer/sign painter/folk artist extraordinaire.

Thomas Gottshall purchased the old "coin op" laundry and accompanying
garage-style building on Sixth Street and First Avenue. He has been
renovating and restoring the old building in hopes of turning it into
a
music and arts complex. Floor plans have been created featuring
performance
space, meeting rooms and a recording studio. The building is made of
brick
and features a wooden- arched roof.

The large main room has a small stage on one end and has surprisingly
good
acoustics, thanks to the arched ceiling. The crowd was sparse but
very
enthusiastic and consisted mostly of musicians, artists and residents
of the
historic district. Most occupied the church pews inside, brought their
own
lawn chairs (and favorite beverages) or stood in the open air. The
music,
much like the weather, was steaming hot.

After several acoustic performers, the Shadowville All- stars took
the
stage. This band of rock n' roll renegades are fronted by Will Dockery
who
has long needed a launch pad for his eclectic, imagery-laden, neo-
beatific
poems. Chain-smoking, spontaneously gesturing towards make-believe
objects
and addressing imaginary characters, Dockery sang with a gravel-
throated
limp to a rolling, bluesy romp in the swamp. Sounding like a cross
between
Tom Waits, Lou Reed and the soundtrack to Pulp Fiction, Dockery and
crew
chugged through their myriad of originals about pool halls, bridges,
tragedies, lost love and relationships.

The music of the All-stars was gritty and down-to-earth: a solid
backbeat
encircled by the meandering bass lines of Sam Singer and two blues-
infused
electric guitars (one tremolo-heavy surf- induced). The band was
joined on
stage by Henry Parker for a long, bombastic version of Sweet Jane by
the
Velvet Underground.

I was glad to hear this crew of upstarts carving out musical sketches
of
Smith-station, the Dillingham Street Bridge and other Columbus-
inspired
landmarks. I hope to see a lot more of the Shadowville All-stars.
They
kicked out the jams. Check out their space at
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars.

Next up were the vocal harmonies of Kat and Renee, both of whom have
wonderful voices. Their blues and country-inspired tunes paved the way
for
Columbus' best kept secret - The Muff-tones.

The Muff-tones are made up of three very talented brothers, Jim, Jack
and
John. Their aural soundscapes drift across the plain of bluegrass,
folk and
sweeping instrumental originals. The Muff-tones play both acoustic
and
electric instruments naturally or through various effects, sounding at
once
intensely original and vaguely familiar.

The band started their set in a traditional formation - guitar, banjo
and
electric bass. The sound was also traditional, very much like
standard
bluegrass. Jim then switched his banjo for a dobro and then replaced
that
with a mandolin. The trio swooped and sweltered through some speedy
newgrass, ragtime and instrumental folk ballads. Titles included "Road
to
Recovery," "Running from Nothing," "Bleach" and "Square Dance."
"Searching"
was described by Jim as something "Barry White would play if he grew
up in
Kentucky." Each piece told a story.

Slowly the effects were added. Jack played his acoustic guitar through
a
synth pedal, making the instrument sound like keyboard washes. Jim
then
pulled out an old Ibanez electric head-banger guitar and played it
through
an assortment of effects. This all added to an interstellar sound
that
brought the listener from the coalmines of Kentucky to a psychedelic
galaxy
far, far away.

The Muff-tones ended their set with a very dexterous groove full of
rich,
acoustic textures and synchronistic rhythms showcasing these front
porch
symphonies. The band seems to be tightening up its sound and line-up.
This
band is worth catching around town.

The final act at Backyard Blues was Eddie Jones. Jones sat on stage
like a
professional blues player and belted out "I Got a Woman" by Ray
Charles and
jammed with a young bass player and Jim from the Muff-tones on some
blues in E.

He was then joined on stage by Eileen d'Esterno, a local sculptor and
painter who began singing the blues in a sultry and sexy voice.
Whether it
was her verses or the swaying of her hips in front of the still
seated
Jones, the performance was cut short by Jones' significant other who
ruches
on stage only to yank the cable from the guitar, silencing the room
and
leaving d'Esterno to ask: "What happened? Did the cops come?"

The cops should have come. I haven't had more fun of recent, and best
of
all, the event was free. All performers gave of their time and talent,
and
some really good folks supported the event with sound, lights and
spirit.
Gotshall said he would host more of these events, so keep your ears
open for
good things to come from Backyard Blues.

Larry CR Caddell

--
"Wobble" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Will Dockery and the Shadowville All-Stars see
http://shadowvilleallstars.muddywolf.net/

[Will Dockery]

Will Dockery writes

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

Yes. Thank you for repeating <whistle-lisp snipped>

Sure, no problem, Mushmouth.

Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I called him on it.

--
Rhino's open mic for music & poetry:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we recorded
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips (drums)
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

[Rob]

In message

Post by Will Dockery

Will Dockery writes

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

Yes. Thank you for repeating <whistle-lisp snipped>

Sure, no problem, Mushmouth.
Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I called him on it.

You didn't read s-l-o-w-l-y enough. Rik's only "comment" on your
laughable video was that he hadn't seen it. In your dishonest
"Duckrish", you have converted that to an "opinion" of your work. I
know you mostly don't understand what words actually mean but your
compound the problem by you being a shit-mouthed liar.

Rob
--
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When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

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[Will Dockery]

Will Dockery writes

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

Rik's only "comment" on your video was that he hadn't seen it.

Which made his opinion of the work, and his appearance on this thread,
worthless.

Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I called him on it.

Meanwhile I /have/ listened to your whistle-lisping spittle spew
"poetry" (chopped-up-prose that many would call 'not a poem')
"performance", and critiqued it appropriately, your dreary "poem" and
mushy "performance":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram

But its too late for you to "shut up" your whistle-lisping slimeball
stuffed lying face, y'know, huh Mushmouth?

I gave your worthless "poem" and "performance" the obvious review it
deserved, you were hurt and can't get over it, can you?

--
Rhino's open mic for music & poetry:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

Post by Will Dockery
That problem is solved on multiple fronts by working with world class
musicians such as Henry Conley. I'm going over the 15 new tracks we recorded
at Larry Rose Studio last month with Jim White (bass) John Phillips (drums)
Riley Yielding (trumpet) Doug Conley (clarinet) and John Overstreet
(trombone), for the 2008 CD.

[Rob]

In message

Post by Will Dockery

Will Dockery writes

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

Rik's only "comment" on your video was that he hadn't seen it.

Which made his opinion of the work, and his appearance on this thread,
worthless.

Actually, it makes your understanding of the word "opinion" worthless
because Rik didn't actually express one.

But you're stupid, and an habitual shit-mouthed liar.

So that explains things.

Feel free to do your usual duckrish lying snip after "actually".

I expect no less from a helpless illiterate.

Rob
--
Rob Evans

When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

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[Rik]

Post by Will Dockery
Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I called him on it.

Why the fuck should I "check up" on your "work", Will? Who the fuck gave
you the shiny badge and the water pistol?

The object I commented on, Will, was your online persona, as
demonstrated in your innumerable and interminable posts to usenet. And
yes, you truly are a work of art, Will; an object worthy of critique.

Rik, knee deep.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I called him on it.

Why the fuck should I "check up" on your "work", Will?

Since you're only here for attempted personal attacks on "Will
Dockery", no reason at all, Rik... which makes your appearance here
worthless.

Come back when you actually have something to say.

--
Rhino's open mic for music & poetry:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr, Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Rik]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I called him on it.

Why the fuck should I "check up" on your "work", Will?

Since you're only here for attempted personal attacks on "Will
Dockery", no reason at all, Rik... which makes your appearance here
worthless.

Remind me, Will. How many new and original poems of your own creation
have you posted to rec.arts.poems or alt.arts.poetry.comments over the
past 12 months?

Go on, I know you want to list them all for everyone to see.

Post by Will Dockery
Come back when you actually have something to say.

I love it when you brandish your shiny new tin badge in my face and
squirt your water pistol down your leg, Will.

Rik, knee deep.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I called him on it.

Why the fuck should I "check up" on your "work", Will?

Since you're only here for attempted personal attacks on "Will
Dockery", no reason at all, Rik... which makes your appearance here
worthless.

Remind me, Will. How many new and original poems of your own creation
have you posted to rec.arts.poems or alt.arts.poetry.comments over the
past 12 months?

About a dozen or so... I'll repost them here if you want to give me some
actual comment and/or critique.

That goes for anyone out there interested in helping me with bringing these
newsgroups out of the gutter.

Or if you want to cut to the chase and get to what you're more interested
in, here's a new photo of "Will Dockery" for you to personally attack:

http://elihu.envy.nu/aapc/fun/ArtThief.jpg

Have at it... your choice, as always.

--
"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Barbara's Cat]

Post by Will Dockery
I'll repost

Until your last breath leaves you, eh?

[Dennis M. Hammes]

Post by Barbara's Cat

Post by Will Dockery
I'll repost

Until your last breath leaves you, eh?

Shouldn't be long, seeing how fast everything else left him.

[Sick Mind]

< ... >

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik
Remind me, Will. How many new and original poems of your own creation
have you posted to rec.arts.poems or alt.arts.poetry.comments over the
past 12 months?

About a dozen or so... I'll repost them here if you want to give me some
actual comment and/or critique.
That goes for anyone out there interested in helping me with bringing
these newsgroups out of the gutter.

Which "gutter" would that be, Will?

I have been so busy with actual work I haven't had time to read much of
rec.arts.poems.

Whom, aside from yourself, do you believe I should be reading?

What would you say is your most recent lesson? How has it impacted
your "work"? What is your work?

Has the infamous Tommy become as prolific at poetry as he is at e-mail
addresses? How do you feel about that?


~~
Wide Right Turns
Sick Mind

[Will Dockery]

Post by Sick Mind

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik
Remind me, Will. How many new and original poems of your own creation
have you posted to rec.arts.poems or alt.arts.poetry.comments over the
past 12 months?

About a dozen or so... I'll repost them here if you want to give me some
actual comment and/or critique.
That goes for anyone out there interested in helping me with bringing
these newsgroups out of the gutter.

I have been so busy with actual work I haven't had time to read much of
rec.arts.poems.
Whom, aside from yourself, do you believe I should be reading?

Dale Houstman and Stuart Leichter are the two best poets here on
Usenet, both "old timers"... recently arrived George Dance is notable
(and jealously hated by many of the non-poets spewing here).

Houstman cascades surreal images ("sit on the street corner and paint
with
words") though a stencil cutout of memory and experience, and dream
(hallucination)... he's telling something important but makes the
finding
out whatever it is an interesting trip for the reader:

----
Her Lark Colony

The blue stamp
of feet each night
is a collector's item

& her red tuba abandoned
by the army you pass
upon the trench's staircase
is a collector's item.

I'll not wake you abruptly
by folding her almond-white scarf
like her almond-white voice
in this absinthe-tasting century.

The white nuns
behind white pylons.
Naked white nuns,

cake white nuns,
salt white nuns
with salt white guns.

I'll not wake you abruptly
by folding her almond-white scarf
like her almond-white voice
in this absinthe-tasting century
which is a collector's item.

dmh
----

From my review of "Her Lark Colony", a few years ago:

"...The white-on-white this thread has turned to reminds me of the
paleness
of your poem "Her Lark Colony", with the vivid flashes of primary
color
[red, blue, et cetera] that flash in violently and unexpectedly...
astounding mix of complexity and simplicity, and wound tight like a
crystal
wristwatch. This poem always plays off like a silent black and white
film
montage, with little sparks of color, like the colors on Travis
Bickle's wet
windshield, and read aloud cries for a saxophone and stripped down
stand up
bass..."

Stuart's poetry is more difficult to pin down /why/ it kicks ass, but
it
does. What comes to mind is the legendary comment William Burroughs
made to Kerouac as JK handed him page after page of rapidfire
typewriting (probably
while WB was in exile in Mexico City after accidentally killing his
wife in
New Orleans in a William Tell act gone wrong, but I'd have to look it
up.
BTW, there's several beautiful essays on Burroughs over at
alt.books.beatgeneration which has really revived my interest in Old
Bull
Lee... including a long review of the hard to find novel "Queer", one
WB
I've never had a chance to read, in fact never seen it for sale in
these
parts, for probably obvious reasons): "I don't really /think/ about
[Kerouac's writing] it, I just rather /like/ it, that's all...
sniff..."

Romance in Country

Rayette's overpouting lips cooed round
I'll do anything you want if
you'll only love me Lucky for
me she can't pronounce womanizer
Rayette was working Denny's mopping floors
vacuumed mudroom floormats straightened them
took out trash and freshened up the rest rooms
we met I went there cause they featured entrees
chicken cordon bleu--French stuff
and boocoo freshly brewed coffee that
Kept me up all night watching cotton balls
between her toes at the place we shared
where she also mopped and vacuumed
scrubbed the sink and toilet rim took out
the trash plus dusted did the dishes
slung hash also complained we never talk
So I go What and she goes
You won't ever leave me will you all the time we talk
but I keep going back
they're her CDs her stereo her TV set
her beer and where I can work on the car

-Stuart Leichter

The combination of elements from both these poems could produce the
perfect
poem, in my opinion.

Post by Sick Mind
What would you say is your most recent lesson? How has it impacted
your "work"? What is your work?

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik
OK, maybe a bit over the top but easily the premier artist on RAP

judging from the number of fans and comments.

I'd say he paid you <slap>

Might as well, Mushmouth... after all, that would be a small lie by
your usual standards.

I have very high standards for lying.

While I give you the truth, which is the review that's brought you
back cryong (with whistle-lisping sobs) for months now:

----
My opinion of the "poem" and "performance" by Rob "Mush-Mouth" Evans:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram

It /is/ a pretty much proven fact that Rob "Mush-Mouth" Evans is a
whistle lisping bore... I'll let the individual listeners decide on
that, though.

The whistle-lisping gunkmouthed sound Rob Evans

Loading Image...

produces may not be a speech defect or the result of rotten teeth and/
or a stroke but actually is just an example of an unexceptional
performer of no special quality, mundane, bored and boring, reading an
unexceptional "poem".

Post by Sick Mind
1. You cut paste and snip all the time.

Really makes you whine, doesn't it?

Which you've been doing for months yourself, at least, yourself... and
dozens of times over the last week with your little paragraph of lies
and libel... cutting pasting and snipping is an established part of
Usenet, and most here are well known for using it.

It comes in handy when dealing with a "curious figure" such as you
when you crawl of of the woodwork with your lies and libels... which
are copy and pasted into every post you make, Mushmouth.

Post by Sick Mind
2. You do demean women who disagree with you.

So I see you've backed off from the lie that I "demean" /all/ women,
as you've repeatedly lied about for weeks now.

Just because I find one woman offensive doesn't make me a misogynist,
as you know, since...

...I've seen you do exactly the same over the years, in fact, you even
seek them out to attack them: Vera, Pandora, Sharon McElroy, to name a
few... do you admit that by your logic you must be a misogynist,
Mushmouth?

Post by Sick Mind
3. Your crap has been known to carry the same typos through weeks of
reposting.

Do you have an example of this "for weeks" or are you just pulling
another little lie out of your ass, Mushmouth?

Even you have made some amusing typos and spelling mistakes, but I
usually don't point them out to you. I laughed about your use of
they're for their or there last year (I forget which) right after you
whined about one of my mistakes.

Turns out that everything you try to attack me about you do often
yourself, Mushmouth:

snipping, misogyny, burbling, whistle-lisping "poetry performances"
that can be
considered undecipherable to some people... proven facts by your own
"logic".

Post by Sick Mind
4. You post links to "videos"

I post links to videos, yeah... why the "quotes", Mushmouth?

A video is a video, fool.

Post by Sick Mind
that show you falling around the stage.

No, that's a lie.

There's no video of me "falling" that exists... do you have a link as
an example of me "falling", or is this just another little lie you're
pulling out of your ass this
morning, Mushmouth?

Post by Sick Mind
5. Your lyrics are generally undecipherable when sung to English
speakers.

No, at best that's just an opinion of yours, at worst another small
lie you've pulled out of your ass, Mushmouth.

In fact, this all began with my review of your vocal, in which you
sound like you're speaking with a mouth stuffed with slimeballs,
spewed through your rotten teeth (see photo)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/images/rob_evans270.jpg

giving you your trademarked whistle-lisping gurgle sound which is both
my opinion /and/ a fact:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram

Post by Sick Mind
These are FACTS

Not at all, Mushmouth, they're all just your lies and opinions.

The fact is that I wrote a review that nailed your whistle-lisping
gunkmouthed
performance of your dreary non-poetry:

"...The whistle-lisping gunkmouthed sound Rob Evans

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/23/DrSivana.jpg/200px-DrSivana.jpg

produces may not be a speech defect or the result of rotten teeth and/
or a stroke but actually is just an example of an unexceptional
performer of no special quality, mundane,bored and boring, reading an
unexceptional 'poem'

...and you just can't get over it, Mushmouth.

Try to get over it and stop whining and lying... never mind, that's
apparently impossible for you.

--
Rhino's open mic for music & poetry, online flyer:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Will Dockery]

Post by Sick Mind
What would you say is your most recent lesson?

I suppose my recent study of the decima.

Post by Sick Mind
What is your work?

The result of the decima experiment:

Decima For Decima

Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.

-Will Dockery

As always, comment and critique are most welcome.

--
Will Dockery and the Shadowville All-Stars
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars

[Will Dockery]

Post by Sick Mind
What is your work?

Here's a fairly complete update on my work, from

http://www.playgroundsmag.com

including news on "Flying Saucer Mechanic", my first attempt at
science fiction epic poetry:

To The Magic Store by Will Dockery

"Riding in a Stuzbearcatskin, those were different times. All the
poets studied rules of verse and the ladies they rolled their eyes." -
Lou Reed

Well, some fancy footwork is required on this month's column, since my
first one was spent reporting a blowout month at Rhino's: The Spy for
Hire CD release party which almost got a live stream broadcast until a
beer was spilled on the hard drive, apparently frying it (my review of
that will appear here next month, the CD that is), the triumphant
return to Rhino's of Winter Sounds from their nationwide tour, which
won them a heavy rotation on the MTV alternative/underground channel,
bringing with them such great Athens & Atlanta acts as Sealions,
Brooke Waggoner, the Lemus and Morning Signs, as well as reporting on
the unique open mic of music & poetry I hosted there )too early to
announce the location of where that will continue), since last week
Brent suddenly sold The Rhino's name and location to a new owner, who
plans to chance the format there. Long story only slightly longer,
Suite 23 on Sidney Simon's Blvd. (next to Mediterranean Cafe) seems to
be the place to meet up with the Rhino's regulars, until Brent opens
his new, bigger and better alternative/indie rock club somewhere in
the north end. Caught a Ryan Rulon show there and seems almost all the
Rhino's folks were there, including the amazing Shane Jolley.

Here's some Brian Fowler on the long awaited Flying Saucer Mechanic
project, which I'm proud to be a part of, doing what seems to be my
fiest science fiction poem:

"...The T.O.T.M album is is set to release in winter 2008 featuring
Brian Vaughan and Brian Fowler. Vaughan has worked w/ Rock Legend Skip
Spence on "Land of the Sun" released by Sundazed Records while Fowler
has recorded 4 albums with Founding Jefferson Airplane member Bob
Harvey and co-written "Hurting For People w/ Spence and Harvey.Fowler
also is currently working w/ Hawkwind Legend HARVEY BAINBRIDGE and
SPACESEED on new project see spaceseed.org for info:.Special Guest
Shadowville Legend WILL DOCKERY pops his space rock cherry in Frisco
Style. Fountain City tribal tounge voices by Venancio Cabaron and
Cristy Fowler bring spirit.This album started on Brian's visit to the
Bay Area and the Wine Country and has endured a fire, a flood, and a
Egatoidal meltdown. This Ambient-Spacerock piece will be available in
WINTER 2008...TOTM... p.s possible SPACESEED tour w/ Spacerock
Legends ...in 2008???"

Also literally years in the making, I've been hitting the Larry Rose
Studio with Henry Conley and an all star cast of players (Riley
Yielding, Jim White, John Phillips, Rick Edwards, Doug Conley and John
Overstreet to name a few), recording the many songs we've collaborated
on through the years, the "Shadowville Speedway Blues" CD. here's a
sample lyric-poem from that, which you can hear at places like Loft on
Wednesdays and SoHo on Tuesdays:

Twilight Girl

Six or six thousand,
we will meet again.
At blazing dusk,
or quiet dawn.
On that shore... again.

This is the wait,
the weight of the world.
Comes down sweet and heavy...
Twilight Girl.

On that quiet morning,
clear, crispy light.
Seeing a movie from a distance,
mourning in front of her flight.

This is the wait,
the weight of the world.
Comes down sweet and heavy,
Twilight Girl.

She offered me her cup,
asked me to fill it up,
I said "Later, babe.
Right now we have to talk
untangle the chakra
that crosses over."

Ghost horses,
from the car ahead,
looks like engine exhaust.
Blink my eyes through bitter tears,
a smile for what we lost.

This is the wait,
the weight of the world.
Comes down sweet and heavy...
Twilight Girl.

Words: Will Dockery
Music: Henry Conley

--
Will Dockery and the Shadowville Installation:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars

[Dennis M. Hammes]

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I called him on it.

Why the fuck should I "check up" on your "work", Will?

Since you're only here for attempted personal attacks on "Will
Dockery", no reason at all, Rik... which makes your appearance here
worthless.

Remind me, Will. How many new and original poems of your own creation
have you posted to rec.arts.poems or alt.arts.poetry.comments over the
past 12 months?

I wuZ gonna up the dare to 12 years, then realised he'd hafta use
/both/ hands.

Post by Rik
Go on, I know you want to list them all for everyone to see.

Post by Will Dockery
Come back when you actually have something to say.

I love it when you brandish your shiny new tin badge in my face and
squirt your water pistol down your leg, Will.

That wasn't his water pistol.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Dennis M. Hammes

Post by Rik
Remind me, Will. How many new and original poems of your own creation
have you posted to rec.arts.poems or alt.arts.poetry.comments over the
past 12 months?

I wuZ gonna up the dare to 12 years

12 years of Usenet, though the first few of those my work was being
posted here without my even knowing about it. A checklist of "Will
Dockery poetry" archived by Google Groups, and originally compiled by
Rik Roots himself.

Comment and critique welcome, as always:

Decima For Decima
Hasty Pudding
"Wobble"
Shadowville Speedway Blues
God's Toybox
Dream Tears
Under The Radar
Her Majesty's Secret Madrigal
Antigone
The Ride (Combat Zone)
Greybeard Cavalier (rewrite)
Parnello's
Fadeaway Encounter
Last Dream Today
Ozone Stigmata
Katherine
Britannia
Sidewalk Spinner
Siver Blazing Sun
Low Red Moon
Toxin On Glass
Ganesha Girl
A Convolution In Her - (6)
A Creature Of The Age - (1)
After The Reading - (2)
Ash Dust Moon - (1)
Ballad Of The Ugly Girl - (1)
Behind the Forest - (2)
Bird Rhythm - (2)
bitter warm morning - (1)
Black Art From A Green Heart - (3)
Black Eagle Lady - (3)

http://www.lulu.com/content/26894

Bone Gods - (3)
Chapter One In This Compacted Book - (3)
Chorus Five - (2)
Chorus Six - (1)
Chorus Two - (1)
Coil - (3)
Cold Room - (2)
Combat Zone - (5)
Commodore - (1)
Connection - (2)
CoOpBop - (1)
Criminals - (1)
Cutting Sky Slashes - (2)
Dark Bitter Night - (1)
Dark Cat - (2)
Dark Moth & Cloud Puppy - (1)
Decima for Decima
Devil Of The Cold - (1)
Dialogue - (2)
Diver Days - (1)
Dog Beads - (1)
Download Blues - (1)
Dream Tears - (5)
Eating Rainbows for Breakfast - (4)
Erase - (1)
Even As In Morning - (2)
Evocation: Laura Redwood - (1)

http://www.lulu.com/content/26961

Fadeaway Encounter - (1)
Fawn Greyhound - (2)
Fire Girl in White Snow - (1)
Flower/Stargirl - (1)
Frayed Page Soaked in Rain - (1)
Galatea - (3)
Galatea: Fare thee well m'lady - (1)
God Smiles (1)

http://www.lulu.com/content/26881

Gold Like A Broken Ring - (5)
Green Ringlets - (1)
Greybeard Cavalier (1)

http://www.lulu.com/content/26663

HaloHead and Dark Greeny - (1)
Head Trip - (1)
Humidity - (1)
humidity poem - (1)
in this mindless breeze - (3)
Into the Night - (1)
Invasion of the Warrior Lords - (4)
Karma Bombs - (3)

http://www.lulu.com/content/32109

Karpet King - (1)
Lay Black Night - (1)
Left Handed Summer - (1)
Lemon Stir - (3)
Lemon Yellow Girl [Looking For A Green Raven] - (1)
Looked All Over - (1)
Looking Over The Bridge (Built In 1936) - (5)
Love From Left - (1)
Love From Left 2 - (1)
Mirror Twins - (10)

http://www.lulu.com/content/29085

Mister Spinster - (2)
Moments - (7)
Moon Studies - (3)
Moontoys - (1)
Moon Toys - (1)
Moon Toys 2 - (1)
Motor-Bike - (1)
Nipple Stream - (1)
Nothing But Pain - (2)
Ode to an electric goddess - (2)
Off The Cuff Part Two - (1)
On the Stage - (1)
Op Bop - (1)
Pages Fly From Earthside (to a yello notebook) - (1)
Pome - (2)
Professor Johnson - (2)
Pussywillow Wine - (1)
Queen of Cups {upturned} - (2)
Ragpicker Joe - (1)
Red Roadrunner Blues - (1)
Remix: Sweet Dark Memories - (1)
Retouched Evil - (1)
Ritual Memory - (1)
Salt Ripple - (1)
Scattered In My Memory - (2)
Scorpioman in Trashcanland - (6)
Self Portrait - (1)
Shadowville - (2)
Shadowville Ballet - (2)
Shadowville Rain - (5)
She's A Sea Captain - (1)
Shiver Booty - (1)
Similarities - (2)
Siren - (2)
Sixties Dream Movie - (2)
Skirt Of Green - (13)
Skirt Of Printed Sunflowers - (2)
Sky Poets of Dreamtown - (1)
Sky Song - (3)
Soft Shadows - (1)
Splendor Span - (1)
Spirit Song Horses - (2)
Stella's Dream - (4)
Stoneman the Cat - (2)
Sunglass - (1)
Sweet Bonnie Bender - (1)
Sweet Dark Memories - (2)
Teletubby Blues - (2)
The Ballad of Whispy - (2)
The Look - (1)
the Myth of the Red Goddess - (2)
The Original - (2)
to an electric goddess - (1)
To Goat Rock - (1)
to Stella - (1)
Torch - (1)
Tuesday With Little Spain - (7)
Twilight Girl
Two Blackbirds Flying Side-By-Side - (1)
Unseen Ballad [part one] - (1)
Water Under A Burning Bridge - (1)
Wave - (3)
Weasel Blues - (1)
Who By Who - (1)

"... and still more dating back to the 1970s that have never been seen
anywhere..." -W.D.

"The truth of my life is in the poetry." -W.D.

--
"Dream Tears" by Dockery-Mallard:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars

"Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

[Sick Mind]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Dennis M. Hammes

Post by Rik
Remind me, Will. How many new and original poems of your own creation
have you posted to rec.arts.poems or alt.arts.poetry.comments over the
past 12 months?

I wuZ gonna up the dare to 12 years

12 years of Usenet, though the first few of those my work was being
posted here without my even knowing about it. A checklist of "Will
Dockery poetry" archived by Google Groups, and originally compiled by
Rik Roots himself.
Decima For Decima
Hasty Pudding
"Wobble"
Shadowville Speedway Blues
God's Toybox
Dream Tears
Under The Radar
Her Majesty's Secret Madrigal
Antigone
The Ride (Combat Zone)
Greybeard Cavalier (rewrite)
Parnello's
Fadeaway Encounter
Last Dream Today
Ozone Stigmata

How many miles from civilization is Shadowville?

Post by Will Dockery
Katherine
Britannia
Sidewalk Spinner
Siver Blazing Sun
Low Red Moon
Toxin On Glass
Ganesha Girl
A Convolution In Her - (6)
A Creature Of The Age - (1)
After The Reading - (2)
Ash Dust Moon - (1)
Ballad Of The Ugly Girl - (1)
Behind the Forest - (2)
Bird Rhythm - (2)
bitter warm morning - (1)
Black Art From A Green Heart - (3)

Are any of these funny? If so put (h) after for humorous.

Post by Will Dockery
Black Eagle Lady - (3)
http://www.lulu.com/content/26894
Bone Gods - (3)
Chapter One In This Compacted Book - (3)
Chorus Five - (2)
Chorus Six - (1)
Chorus Two - (1)
Coil - (3)
Cold Room - (2)
Combat Zone - (5)
Commodore - (1)
Connection - (2)

You know how albums have about 12 to 14 songs and people only like 2 or
3 of them? How good is your "filler" detector?

Post by Will Dockery
CoOpBop - (1)
Criminals - (1)
Cutting Sky Slashes - (2)
Dark Bitter Night - (1)
Dark Cat - (2)
Dark Moth & Cloud Puppy - (1)

I saw that one! No, wait, that was Dark Puppy and Cloud Moth.

Post by Will Dockery
Decima for Decima

Shouldn't there be a (2) or something after? That one was first on
your list here.

Post by Will Dockery
Devil Of The Cold - (1)
Dialogue - (2)
Diver Days - (1)
Dog Beads - (1)
Download Blues - (1)
Dream Tears - (5)
Eating Rainbows for Breakfast - (4)
Erase - (1)
Even As In Morning - (2)
Evocation: Laura Redwood - (1)
http://www.lulu.com/content/26961
Fadeaway Encounter - (1)
Fawn Greyhound - (2)
Fire Girl in White Snow - (1)
Flower/Stargirl - (1)
Frayed Page Soaked in Rain - (1)
Galatea - (3)
Galatea: Fare thee well m'lady - (1)
God Smiles (1)
http://www.lulu.com/content/26881
Gold Like A Broken Ring - (5)
Green Ringlets - (1)
Greybeard Cavalier (1)
http://www.lulu.com/content/26663
HaloHead and Dark Greeny - (1)
Head Trip - (1)
Humidity - (1)
humidity poem - (1)
in this mindless breeze - (3)
Into the Night - (1)
Invasion of the Warrior Lords - (4)
Karma Bombs - (3)
http://www.lulu.com/content/32109
Karpet King - (1)
Lay Black Night - (1)
Left Handed Summer - (1)
Lemon Stir - (3)
Lemon Yellow Girl [Looking For A Green Raven] - (1)
Looked All Over - (1)
Looking Over The Bridge (Built In 1936) - (5)
Love From Left - (1)
Love From Left 2 - (1)
Mirror Twins - (10)
http://www.lulu.com/content/29085
Mister Spinster - (2)
Moments - (7)
Moon Studies - (3)
Moontoys - (1)
Moon Toys - (1)
Moon Toys 2 - (1)
Motor-Bike - (1)
Nipple Stream - (1)
Nothing But Pain - (2)
Ode to an electric goddess - (2)
Off The Cuff Part Two - (1)
On the Stage - (1)
Op Bop - (1)
Pages Fly From Earthside (to a yello notebook) - (1)
Pome - (2)
Professor Johnson - (2)
Pussywillow Wine - (1)
Queen of Cups {upturned} - (2)
Ragpicker Joe - (1)
Red Roadrunner Blues - (1)
Remix: Sweet Dark Memories - (1)
Retouched Evil - (1)
Ritual Memory - (1)
Salt Ripple - (1)
Scattered In My Memory - (2)
Scorpioman in Trashcanland - (6)

Which you attempted to write about me, no?

Post by Will Dockery
Self Portrait - (1)
Shadowville - (2)
Shadowville Ballet - (2)
Shadowville Rain - (5)
She's A Sea Captain - (1)
Shiver Booty - (1)
Similarities - (2)
Siren - (2)
Sixties Dream Movie - (2)
Skirt Of Green - (13)
Skirt Of Printed Sunflowers - (2)
Sky Poets of Dreamtown - (1)
Sky Song - (3)
Soft Shadows - (1)
Splendor Span - (1)
Spirit Song Horses - (2)
Stella's Dream - (4)
Stoneman the Cat - (2)
Sunglass - (1)
Sweet Bonnie Bender - (1)
Sweet Dark Memories - (2)
Teletubby Blues - (2)
The Ballad of Whispy - (2)
The Look - (1)
the Myth of the Red Goddess - (2)
The Original - (2)
to an electric goddess - (1)
To Goat Rock - (1)
to Stella - (1)
Torch - (1)
Tuesday With Little Spain - (7)
Twilight Girl
Two Blackbirds Flying Side-By-Side - (1)
Unseen Ballad [part one] - (1)
Water Under A Burning Bridge - (1)
Wave - (3)
Weasel Blues - (1)
Who By Who - (1)
"... and still more dating back to the 1970s that have never been seen
anywhere..." -W.D.
"The truth of my life is in the poetry." -W.D.

You know what "they" say, Will. If at first you don't succeed, try,
try a gun. Or "again" or something that sounds like that.

Do play a musical instrument? I am guessing you play the spoons. Am I
right?


~~
Sick Mind

[Meat Plow]

Post by Sick Mind
You know what "they" say, Will. If at first you don't succeed, try,
try a gun. Or "again" or something that sounds like that.
Do play a musical instrument? I am guessing you play the spoons. Am I
right?

I like the part about where he lies about being on Usenet for 12 years.

[Meat Plow]

Post by Meat Plow

Post by Sick Mind
You know what "they" say, Will. If at first you don't succeed,
try, try a gun. Or "again" or something that sounds like that.
Do play a musical instrument? I am guessing you play the spoons.
Am I right?

I like the part about where he lies about being on Usenet for 12 years.

<snip duckshit's lies>

There ya go, nothing but the truth now.

heh

[Dennis M. Hammes]

Post by Will Dockery
"The truth of my life is in the poetry." -W.D.

jesusfuck. No wonder it sucks to be you.

[Will Dockery]

This tiny sentence ("Sunflowers
You wrote your verses
with your veins
cold against the wall.

Yeah, that's pretty good, and reminds me of a piece from my poem "Even
As In Morning":

http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t413678-p4-the-pope-died-on-april-fools-day-what-does-that-tell-you.html

I visit the dark stage thinking of the time:
When I was drunk, and I wrote you on my skin.

I remember the last time you cited DM's poetry, and my response, the
memories her poem evokes for me:

From:
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.music.dylan/2007-08/msg00879.html

On Aug 7, 8:29 am, Will Dockery <***@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 7, 1:19 am, "Manuel" wrote:
I just read this in a Spanish newspaper:

"In 1974, Ochs organized a festival in New York to protest against the
coup
d'état in Chile. When everybody was expecting a huge failure, to the
point
that they were thinking of canceling it, his friend Bob Dylan offered
to
play, getting the sold out sign in a few days"
(I hope the rough translation makes sense, text in Spanish can be
found
bellow)

I've never heard of this concert before. Does anyone know about it?

Yeah, Crawdaddy magazine wote it up back in 1974, and the murder of
the poet in Ochs' description is still haunting 40 years later. here's
the last discussion I had where it came up a while back:

(about the execution of a poet friend) from "There are Sunflowers in
Italy" by Didi Menendez:
You wrote your verses
with your veins,
cold against the wall.

Thanks for bringing up Menendez, Colin, since I became curious and
Googled "There are Sunflowers in Italy"... and immediately came upon
comments on the poem, and specifically the three lines you quoted:

----
from:http://www.poets.org/forum/viewtopic.php?
p=51054&sid=6fbc0869ae914aa6...

There Are Sunflowers In Italy
- by Didi Menendez

The sunflowers in Italy
are as distant
as the Cuba I never knew
and the poems that you left
when I met you
in that marble room.

"...Nothing remarkable here, just some assonance of long "u" and
short
"e" sounds and a roughly anapestic rhythm. Unless you saw "Bambi
Meets
Godzilla", you cannot be prepared for what is to come. Even me
"spilling the beans" by telling you that it is a description of the
poetry mentor's death by firing squad will do little to soften the
impact of these next three lines--three lines that you will remember
for the rest of your life. I will warn you one more time: what you
are
about to read may spoil you or, as you say, make you "not easily
pleased". If you have the feeling that you are about to be stabbed in
the chest you are entirely correct.

Brace yourself. When ready, scroll down..."

You wrote your verses
with your veins
cold against the wall.

"...Nothing that I can say does justice to these three lines. The
assonance of long "o" sounds, the alliteration of "v's" and "w's",
the
near rhyme of "veins" with "against" and the steady iamb, broken
eloquently only at the startling "veins", along with the magnificent
time-shifting of "cold" all serve to support the drama and the
trope.**

A couple of strophes later we see the anticlimax:

Today I walk through the streets of Miami
crying for what you left.
But you, old man, you cannot mourn.
You have the sunflowers.

Understated, quick and delicate.

This is poetry.

This is grace."
----

The lines

You wrote your verses
with your veins
cold against the wall.

Remind me most of a Phil Ochs interview in 1974 or so that often
haunts
me still, of the public murder of the poet-folk singer Victor Jara in
Chile:

14 From: Epic1934 - view profile
Date: Fri, Jun 4 1999 12:00 am

Remember though that the coup in 1974 did save Chile from Communism -
so
not all bad then.

Ironically, among the people tortured and killed by the coup-meisters
was folk singer Victor Jara--the "Bob Dylan of Chile." They cut his
fingers off
first, symbolically. Phil Ochs paid a visit to Chile a little later,
partly
to pay homage to Jara.

16 From: MrETramp - view profile
Date: Fri, Jun 4 1999 12:00 am

As I recall the story of Jara's death, it occurred in a stadium into
which Allende supporters had been herded. Jara was leading the people
in the stadium in singing songs of resistance. The army/coupmeisters
cut off his
hands so he could no longer play his guitar. Jara kept on singing
songs until they finally killed him.

Don't know if the story is apocryphal, but it certainly fits
comfortably with the brutal nature of the coup in general.

17 From: Epic1934 - view profile
Date: Fri, Jun 4 1999 12:00 am

Not apocryphal. I was an editor at Crawdaddy at the time and we ran
an
article by Stew Albert about his subsequent trip to Chile with Phil
Ochs and
Jerry Rubin. They talked to Jara's friends and independent
journalists who
confirmed the story (and it's been much written about and confirmedt
since). By the way, the article is included in a Best of Crawdaddy
anthology I edited
with Peter Knobler, called "Very Seventies." -- Greg Mitchell

En 1974, Ochs organizó un festival en Nueva York contra el golpe de
Estado
de Pinochet. Cuando se mascaba un rotundo fracaso de taquilla, hasta
el
punto de pensar en cancelarlo, su amigo Bob Dylan se ofreció a tocar,
consiguiendo que se colgara el cartel de <<no hay billetes>>.
(http://www.larazon.es/noticias/noti_viv28504.htm)

they didnt chop off victor jaras hands
orlando letelier told me years ago that pinochets men pulverized them
into bloody stumps with the *** ends of their submachine guns because
he would not sing for the junta
if they became detached that is how it happened
but the rest of the story is pretty accurate
still he sang for the people a song that his widow smuggled out of the
stadium before they machine gunned him down
but always remember that victor jara was NOT the bob dylan of chile
he was an icon all his own
bob could have been the victor jara of america
but he had kids so he had to hold back
victor jara is a heroic figure
phil ochs is a tragic figure
bob dylan is a well paid artist
but it was nice that phil and bob did the benefit
the least they could do

--
"You can't find "sense" in the poem, fine...
that doesn't mean there's none there, just
that you can't, or won't, see it."
- Will Dockery, 15 May 2007

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr, Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Rik]

Post by Will Dockery

"Sunflowers in Italy"
by Didi Menendez
You wrote your verses
with your veins
cold against the wall.

This is a poem.

Post by Will Dockery
When I was drunk, and I wrote you on my skin.

This is a statement.

Until you can work out why one is a poem and the other is a statement,
Will, there is no point in me bothering to comment on your work.

Rik, knee deep.

[Will Dockery]

Post by Rik

"Sunflowers in Italy"

Post by Will Dockery
by Didi Menendez
You wrote your verses
with your veins
cold against the wall.

This is a poem.

I agree.

Post by Rik

When I was drunk, and I wrote you on my skin.

This is a statement.

Damned right it is, Rik... thanks for taking the time to comment.

--
"You can't find "sense" in the poem, fine...
that doesn't mean there's none there, just
that you can't, or won't, see it."
- Will Dockery, 15 May 2007

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr, Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Will Dockery]

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I called him on it.

Why the fuck should I "check up" on your "work", Will?

Since you're only here for attempted personal attacks on "Will
Dockery", no reason at all, Rik... which makes your appearance here
worthless.

Remind me, Will. How many new and original poems of your own creation
have you posted to rec.arts.poems or alt.arts.poetry.comments over the
past 12 months?

Here's a couple that turned out pretty good, imo, of course. Don't
agree? Then comment & suggest away:

Decima

Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Kaos string
Nightswim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.

-Will Dockery

And one of my current favorites that, while intended for performance
with Conley's music, lays well on a page, as well:

Shadowville Speedway Blues

In a taxi watching a sporting house
Beside a Linwood vacant lot
Silverdollar moon portspotting
Constellation like a sailor's knot.

The sky was black, ink and glitter in the night
Train whine saxophone out beyond the light
I'm in love with a ghost blue turns to grey
Put a pyramid on my head to take my pain away.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street

Brown Reculse magic drifting around the shed
Someone has it in for me I must not lose my head
Moving with the speedo life several with me left behind
Burned too many bridges defragmented my time.

Somewhere in time I've seen all this before
In a magazine or a dream of a distant war
Manifested destiny a manifesto and a part
All the actors still agree that ever had a heart.

Hazel knew the karma, she kept it in a bottle
Black tooth mojo marked index cards
Bundles over the side of Dillingham Bridge
Splashing as ripples reflect from the stars.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street
Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Don't look back, don't admit defeat.

-Will Dockery (words)/Henry Conley (music)

I'll be posting other recent favorites here, tia for any valid
comments and/or suggestions, Rik (and others).

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Rik

Post by Will Dockery
http://elihu.envy.nu/aapc/fun/ArtThief.jpg

I'm not even certain it's Art.
I mean, two dogs, head-to-head, and no chips in front of either
one of 'em?
C'/mon/.

You have a point, but the facts are that the painting was stolen at
the time off Albert Woolfolk's murder, so whoever has the painting now
might be able to give the police some information leading to the

If the killer and the thief are one in the same, I'd think he/she
wouldn't be handing out clues about the pen drawing. Not on Usenet, and
not to the CPD tip line.

The painting went missing at the same time as Albert's murder, since
it was gone at the time his body was discovered, taken from the frame.

Post by Rik
Worth a try, since even murderers have friends and acquaintances. John
Wayne Gacy hung out with Rosalind Carter and Mayor Daily, for instance.

I didn't know about that...

Post by Rik
Birds of a feather.
There are fences for stolen artwork--and they might rat him/her out--

Depends on whether the killer kept the painting or sold it... and if
an art dealer bought it they should be able to give some information
on who sold it to them.

--
"Dream Tears" by Dockery-Mallard:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars

"Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Post by Rik
we should always remember that Jimmy Carter was hardly a fence mender.
But he tried to be.
BTW, did you know he provoked the Soviets into invading Afghanistan? On
purpose?
Yeah, it surprised me too.
I think that lap dance in Las Vagas would be enough to convince Mohammed
Atta that Americans aren't really "people" at all.
Like he couldn't have reached that conclusion surfing the internet.
--
Neo D'Artagnan
"Beware the man of one book."
--Thomas Aquinas

[Will Dockery]

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Aw shucks, Rik...

--
"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc

[Dennis M. Hammes]

Post by Will Dockery
Rik Roots, rather than actually check out the work he was supposedly
commenting on, instead used the space for another lame personal attack
on "Will Dockery", and I whined at him on it.

Not only that, you notched up your delusions of grandeur far enough
to refer to yourself in the third person.

"/La Reine se veult/."
Is that just the Duckrish inability to manage pronouns?
Or the far more-common Duckrish Narcissism?

I hear Dick Cheney's gonna be hunting in Georgia for Thanksgiving.
You should run right up and talk to him, flapping your Performing
arms about how your NEA-level, Internationally-Recorded Performance
Art is being so cruelly laughed at by /foreigners/ on UseNet.

I'm /sure/ you'll get his attention.
The Patriot Act is chock full of stuff about foreigners.

[Will Dockery]

<http://www.firesides.net/seeds.wav>
<http://www.firesides.net/cards.wav>
<http://www.firesides.net/writer.wav>

Colin is well worth a listen.

Yes, no doubt!

Colin Ward, folksinger, take a bow!

--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
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Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets,
artists,
musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10, bring your
own
bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Wobble" by Dockery & Conley (recorded August 14 2007):

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr, Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:

[Will Dockery]

Post by Will Dockery

Post by Will Dockery
http://youtu.be/UVIF2-qWIUc
(and no, I *still* haven't watched the video).

Making your opinion of the work worthless, ya know?
Get back to me when you actually have something to say.

So all you've managed to demonstrate <snip>

Is that you're commenting on work that you admit you haven't even
seen.

<Rik's off-topic shit snipped>

--
"Shadowville Installation presents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rhinos-Open_Mic-02.PNG
Open Mic music & poetry at Rhino's, fall season!
Every Thursday (starting October 18) 11pm-1am (& beyond...) Poets,
artists,
musicians, madmen open mic & poetry slam! (sign up at 10, bring your
own
bongos) 21+ Rhino's http://www.myspace.com/rhinoslive
1239 Broadway, Shadowville."

"Toxin on Glass" by Shadowville Installation - song by Gene Woolfolk
Jr,
Timothy Maxwell, Gary Frankfurth, & Will Dockery:
http://youtu.be/-XWUdCRbVnc